December 28, 2017

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From The Official Website:

Today’s episode is a deep dive into cryptocurrency.
First, we’re delighted to share some breaking news with you that follows up on our Episode 132 about a student and his crazy-person lawyer trying to introduce creationism at Thomas’s old high school, Bret Harte High. As it turns out, friend of the show and FFRF attorney Andrew Seidel has written a masterful letter to the school and offered to co-counsel with them pro bono.
In the extra-length main segment, we discuss some of the issues surrounding cryptocurrency and the law.
Finally, we end with an all-new Thomas Takes the Bar Exam Question #56 about the fraudulent sale of a stove.
Show Notes & Links

  1. We first discussed Bret Harte High in our Episode 132; you can also read an account of the school board hearing; visit crazy person Greg Glaser’s website and read all about the evils of vaccinations, numerological theology, and (of course) his proposed Earth Constitution.
  2. Andrew Seidel’s letter is republished (with his permission) here.
  3. The actual cases relevant to the dispute are Tinker v. Des Moines Independent School District, 393 U.S. 503 (1969) and Kitzmiller v. Dover, 400 F.Supp.2d 707 (M.D. Pa. 2005).
  4. If you love Andrew Seidel, you might want to go back to his previous appearances on the show, Episode 82 (on Trinity Lutheran), Episode 85 (which was originally a Patreon-only exclusive), Episode 111, and Episode 131.
  5. And if that’s still not enough Andrew for you, you can catch up on Andrew Seidel’s most recent writings: his op-ed on Masterpiece Cakeshop, which you can read here; his blog post on right-wing legal organizations; and, of course, his FFRF press release celebrating the victory in keeping Mateer and Talley off the federal bench.
  6. You can view the IGM survey we discuss here.
  7. This is the bitcoin FAQ.
  8. The case I discuss is SEC v. Shavers, 2013 WL 4028182 (E.D. Texas Aug. 6, 2013, Case No. 4:13-cv-416).

Law Talkin' Stuff

It's in the Constitution
Law Court Thingies
Magic Law Words






  • [00:00:00] Intro
  • [00:04:01] Earth Law: Return to Thomas's High School
    • [00:08:57] What a good attorney letter looks like
    • [00:12:20] Well established proposition and a block quote
    • [00:17:15] What legal representative do high schools in small towns typically have?
    • [00:19:50] The potential trap of pro bono representation
  • [00:23:27] Bitcoin
    • [00:26:34] Is bitcoin money?
    • [00:29:10] Bitcoin - store of value & speculation
    • [00:32:10] Bitcoin fraud
    • [00:36:38] Crypto-Currency & cryptographic code solutions
    • [00:42:40] Hard money Libertarians
    • [00:43:36] Hyper-inflation & government fiat currency
    • [00:47:08] The Gold Standard
  • [00:58:12] Patron Hall of Fame
  • [01:01:18] Thomas Takes The Bar Exam: Suing for conversion (question)
  • [01:07:41] Outro
  • [01:08:44] Out Takes