May 7, 2018

Listen to OA #171


From the the official page:

Today’s episode welcomes back one of our favorite guests — and the show’s only five-time guest, Andrew Seidel, attorney with the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

Together, Andrew, Andrew, and Thomas tackle a bunch of church and state separation issues. First, they break down Andrew Seidel’s recent success in convincing the New Jersey Supreme Court to strike down a grant program that spent taxpayer dollars rebuilding churches and saved the citizens of New Jersey more than a quarter of a billion dollars!

Then, the gang does a deep dive into a pending law in Kansas that would permit adoption agencies within the state to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation (or anything else that offended the organization’s… wait for it… sincerely-held religious beliefs).

Finally, we end with the answer to Thomas (and Andrew!) Take The Bar Exam question #74 about the admissibility of evidence.

Show Notes & Links

  1. Click here to read the Morris County Opinion discussed during the “A” segment.
  2. And if you want to see the legislative notes from the Kansas adoption bill, you should click here.
  3. We broke down the Masterpiece Cakeshop case in Episode 105, and you can follow along with the guys by reading the transcript of the Masterpiece Cakeshop oral argument before the Supreme Court!
  4. If you love Andrew Seidel, you might want to go back to his FOUR previous appearances on the show, Episode 82 (on Trinity Lutheran), Episode 85 (which was originally a Patreon-only exclusive), Episode 111, and most recently, Episode 131.

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  • [00:00:00] Intro
  • [00:02:19] FFRF victories:
    • [00:03:14] Morris County, New Jersey using taxes to repair churches (New Jersey Supreme Court)
    • [00:40:29] Kansas Adoption Bill
  • [00:53:36] New Patron Tuesday
  • [00:56:30] Thomas Takes The Bar Exam: Prior failures to stop (answer)
  • [01:04:38] Outro